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So over the last two days I've managed to recoup a little lost sleep and start the revisions process on Well of Sorrows. I worked on the first four chapters (out of 25). So far, I've managed to cut 750 words. Only 79,250 more to go!! *manic grin with thumbs up*

Actually, I knew that the first four chapters were rather tight and that not much would be trimmed. I'd already gone over them repeatedly when they were first written. It isn't until after this that I hit material that hasn't already been reviewed a few times during the writing process. So hopefully there will be more significant cuts in the future.

I figured I'd blog about my revisions process, in case anyone out there is interested. During the writing of the novel, I always end up with a bunch of notes on things that I needed to add in earlier in the novel based on events that happened later on. For example, I have a note that Lotaern and Colin need to (at some point) discuss the Faelehgre in the forest and the Drifters on the plains. This scene will also allow me to work in some of the history of the world and the religion of the Alvritshai. I didn't realize how important Lotaern would be initially, so such a scene never occured to me, but as I wrote further and further, it became apparent that Lotaern needed to be developed and integrated into the plot much sooner. Hence the note. One idea of how to incorporate him more meaningfully into the story (not just throw him in a few scnees for the sake of him being there). I have a bunch of those types of notes already.

After finishing the novel though, I sat back and tried to clarify all of the changes I needed along the way as a whole. So I have a bunch of notes on that as well. Think of this as a summary or world-view of the changes, rather than specific scenes that needed to be added. This is where I have things like "emphasize the relationship between Colin and Aeren earlier". So I don't have anything in particular in mind, but I need to keep a watch for potential places where I can make that emphasis apparent as I read through the novel.

There are also just stupid notes at this stage, things like, "remember Colin has a freaking staff!" because of course there are many scene where he doesn't use the staff and I conveniently forgot he should be carrying it at that point, so it never gets mentioned. But it may cause problems if he suddenly "has" the staff again later on, when he needs it, especially if the reader has also conveniently forgotten that he has a staff. This is just me being stupid as a writer at the time. It's also a consequence of the prolonged way books are written. Readers read a chapter in an hour or less. It took the writer days to write that, if not more. So things that the reader thinks happen close together because they ARE close together in the book . . . typically happened days apart in the writingt process. Which is why the staff got so lost in the first place. (It might not have in a first person POV. I think it got lost when I was bouncing around to different characters.)

In any case, none of those notes were relevant to the first four chapters. Hence the minimal cutting and quick revision. I expect the rest of the book to take much longer to revise, as those notes come more and more into play. Also, I'll have to analyze the upcoming scenes more closely, looking for whole sections to cut.

In any case, it's started. As different things show up in the revision process, I'll let everyone know what they are and how I handle them. Keep in mind that everyone's revision process will be different, so just because it works for me doesn't mean it will work well for you.

Now, off to see "The Incredible Hulk", followed by ice cream at Cold Stone. Yumm . . .

Date: 2008-06-19 10:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wbm.livejournal.com
"remember Colin has a freaking staff!"

lol. The same thing happens to me in the illustration process. I'll draw one page on one day, them sometimes come back as much as a week later, take a quick skim of what I've done, draw another page, but forget a character had a pencil in hand or something. Then when the pencil gets used one page 5, I see the pages in between don't have it, & I have to redraw every instance of whatever hand is holding it.

Once I had to completely redraw a character based on body position cuz I drew a heavy object in the wrong hand & it completely changed the centre of gravity & resulting pose.

Annoying fixes, but essential.

Date: 2008-06-21 11:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
Definitely annoying. Certainly essential.

Date: 2008-06-19 10:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ruthannereid.livejournal.com
Now, that is awesome. It makes complete sense - and it's why you managed to avoid any Chekov's guns in the Amenkor trilogy.

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who has a "to put in book.txt" file. :D

Date: 2008-06-21 11:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
There are always things I need to remember to put in. There are also things I have to remember to change or take out. One of the worst is "time". I always end up rearranging events and have to do a timeline to keep everything straight. How many days was it since "blah" happened anyway? That kind of thing. I was doing some of that on today's revisions.

Date: 2008-06-19 11:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kathleenfoucart.livejournal.com
There are also just stupid notes at this stage, things like, "remember Colin has a freaking staff!"

I have notes like that! I had two or three that were "That character woke up a page ago and hasn't said anything yet!" and a couple pages later, "Seriously, she's still awake, why isn't she talking?"

Date: 2008-06-21 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
I did that in the third novel, The Vacant Throne. I had too many characters running around and would have to actively remind myself to bring in, say, Marielle, whenever possible, since people were interested in what happened to her. That's why the book is longer than the first two. (Or that's my reasoning for its length anyway. *grin*)

Date: 2008-06-19 11:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sleigh.livejournal.com
I always like the revision stage... A masochist, I guess. :-)

Date: 2008-06-21 11:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
Must be. But making the novel better is always good. The process however . . .

Date: 2008-06-20 12:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jaxom92.livejournal.com
There's just something about Cold Stone icecream after a movie in the summer. When I went to go see Indy it was a Cold Stone afterward, but unfortunately for us, we live in Western Washington so it was a bit drizzly. We ate outside anyway. Icecream in the rain! Only a Washingtonian would do such a thing!

Date: 2008-06-21 11:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
Cold Stone rules!

Date: 2008-06-20 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rugor.livejournal.com
Ahhhhhhhh Coldstone and revisions-- wonderful combination.

Date: 2008-06-21 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
The sweet with the bitter, what can I say?

On Colin's staff infection

Date: 2008-06-20 11:09 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sodyera.livejournal.com
Your note to yourself could always turn into an effective plot device, e.g.:

"Oh crap, where's my damned staff?" he said, searching through the treacherous forest for where he'd put it down for a smoke. Then the soul-eater revealed itself.

Re: On Colin's staff infection

Date: 2008-06-21 11:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
Hmm . . . that's possible.

Date: 2008-06-20 11:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vcmorris.livejournal.com
Have fun with that.
I'll be starting the same thing here in a little while with Mistress For Sale, though the Gods know how I hate to stop working on Blood Of The Scarecrow for more than a few days!

Mistress edits/revisions should be very interesting as I've not laid eyes on the manuscript in about 6 months!

Revision Delays

Date: 2008-06-20 06:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vespican.livejournal.com
I think it is to one's advantage to let a manuscript set awhile before attempting revisions. If you come back to it after a long period of time, the close connection gained during the writing process will be less, and you should be able to approach it a little more objectively. At least that's what I've found in my case. (Sometimes it a matter of reading something I wrote a while ago and thinking, either, "hey, that's pretty good!" or, "how could I have written such drivel?"
Dave

Re: Revision Delays

Date: 2008-06-21 11:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
I'd like to have some time for it to rest, but unfortunately the deadline is August. But this is just my revisions for myself. I'll have a month or two off from the book while my editor reads it, before diving back in for the final revisions.

Re: Revision Delays

Date: 2008-06-22 09:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vespican.livejournal.com
At this particular point in my writing career, I do not yet have to worry about deadlines. As that might allow me the luxury of setting something aside for awhile, it certainly is an advantage. Yet, what I wouldn't give to be faced with the prospect of a looming deadline!
Dave

Date: 2008-06-20 02:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madkestrel.livejournal.com
Ice cream! Coldstone! Must resist....must not give in to temptation...

Date: 2008-06-21 11:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
Resistance is futile.

Date: 2008-06-22 12:36 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] madkestrel.livejournal.com
It was. We gave in tonight, and now there's lovely dark chocolate in my freezer!
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Date: 2008-06-21 11:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
I thought it was an OK movie, a little slow in spots, but not a total disaster. It wasn't on my "must see" list for the summer (like the X-files movie). I went with friends.

[livejournal.com profile] pbray's main complaint was that the plot interrupted the explosions.

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