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Today, co-conspirator and co-editor Patricia Bray ([livejournal.com profile] pbray) and I went off to see the movie Tron: Legacy, and I realized that we've seen a few movies recently and I haven't reviewed any of them. So let's play catch-up, shall we?

First up, Tron: Legacy: I've been waiting for this movie since I first heard they were making it, months and months ago. I only vaguely recall the first movie from the 80s (and surprisingly, you can't even buy a DVD of it now, which is utter FAIL for the marketing department at Disney), but I remember being wowed by the idea and I can remember certain scenes from the movie rather vividly. And today, all of that came back to me in a warm little glow of nostalgia. *grin* The new movie has all of the same flavor of the original, and contrary to some rumblings I heard beforehand, does indeed have a plot. I think what people are grumbling about is that the plot is more sedate and character-involved than they were perhaps expecting. There are some good moments between father and son, the distance that can grow between them (especially when one is trapped on The Grid, let's say), and a touch of what father's might expect of their sons, etc. There wasn't anything heavy-handed in the character department, and there were certainly some new ideas in the Tron universe. I like how they took some of the elements of the original Tron movie and extended them in new and interesting directions. They didn't push it far enough to capture the new generation though. I do think they left the end of the movie open enough that they can do a much more updated version of "Tron" for the new generation, with this movie being a good bridge between the two generations. Overall, I really enjoyed the movie, even though it didn't completely blow me away. I'd recommend it for everyone who might have seen the original movie, and think the new generation should check it out for the kitsch factor, with the hopes that the producers/directors/etc will take the next step and take Tron and its universe to the next level.

Last weekend, we also saw The Chronicles of Narnia: Voyage of the Dawn Treader. I remember when I read these books way back when that this one was my favorite of the series, although I can't remember why. I don't remember anything of the plot of these books for the most part. I should probably reread them. But based on the three movies so far, I'd say that the reason this was my favorite book was because there was MUCH more action in this one than the previous ones. Basically, the kids are taken to Narnia through a picture of the Dawn Treader on the sea and there discover that "evil" has entered Narnia in the form of a green mist. While the main lands of Narnia are more or less at peace with each other under King Caspian's rule, the islands in the eastern ocean are another matter, and this is where the Evil has taken hold. The ship and its crew hop from island to island, encounter strange new creatures, and are tested by the Evil in various ways. Overall, it was an OK movie. I felt they should have spent more time developing the temptations that Evil gives them, built them up so they were move significant. It felt like most of them were simply thrown in. This would have satisfied the adults in the audience more. They certainly catered to the kids enough with some rather good action and lots of great scenery and strangeness. The battle with evil at the end was particularly good, the monster gruesome enough that I'm certain some kids who watched it are having nightmares. So, much better than the second movie, I'd certainly like to see the fourth movie made, but they need to find a better balance between the action and the more serious aspects of the plot.

At some point before Narnia we also went to see Hereafter. This movie is in a completely different vein than the other two, being a more literary movie. And by literary I mean dull. The best part of the entire movie was the opening sequence with the tsunami, which sets up the main angst of the French woman character, who essentially dies, sees the hereafter (or a version thereof), before being brought back. Her life is now haunted by what she saw and the questions it raises for her. This plotline is woven into two others: the first is Matt Damon's character, who is psychic, can speak to the dead in the hereafter, but doesn't want his power any more because it alienates him from everyone; and a young boy who is having a hard time dealing with the death of his twin brother. Matt Damon's character lives in San Francisco, and the boy lives in London. This movie probably two and a half hours long, and in my opinion could have been covere in a half an hour instead. Far too much angst and woe before solutions are reached. As a writer, I spent most of my time trying to figure out how the hell these three characters were ever going to meet. How they DO end up meeting is interesting (and believable, although there's no way in hell that the book fair is that calm). But the most believable part of the entire movie is when the French woman, who's a writer, is at her computer, supposedly writing, and ends up getting on the internet to do "research." Both Patricia and I burst out laughing at this (probably to the other movie-goers consternation), because of course this never happens to us.

I'm fairly certain there's a movie in there somewhere that I've forgotten we went to, but neither one of us could remember what it was. So instead, I'll talk about the two trailers we saw before the Tron movie today: Transformers 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean 4. For T3, I'm hoping someone slapped some sense and talent into Michael Bay. Please do not let this be the disaster T2 was. The trailer was good and gave me hope. As for P4, I was worried they were going to somehow try to work the Orlando Bloom character and the others into this fourth one. There's no way I'd buy this, since they basically ended their plotlines with P3. But based on the trailer, they didn't try for this at all. Aside from Jack Sparrow and a couple of the pirates, it appears everyone is new. And again, the trailer shows promise.

The rest of the trailers sucked. Both Patricia and I mostly said, "No!" or "My brain hurts."

Date: 2010-12-19 03:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com
3 of us went to see TRon :Legacy tonight.

General concensus was that while it was good and we liked it, the original/first Tron was way better.

And yes, definately left it opened ended for a third.

Date: 2010-12-19 03:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com
Oh and I remembered why I don't care for 3d- I had a headache at the end of the movie.}:/

Wish they'd stop using it for everything.

Date: 2010-12-19 01:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbray.livejournal.com
Me too! This was the second 3D movie I'd seen recently-- I had headache after seeing Narnia, so repeated experiment with Tron, with the same result.

Date: 2010-12-19 04:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvia-rachel.livejournal.com
3D really sucks if you wear glasses. I not only have a headache after, I have a face-ache, too, from wearing 2 pairs of glasses one on top of the other for several hours :P

OTOH, I suppose it's a small price to pay for not having to stick contact lenses to my eyeballs every morning ::shudder::

Date: 2010-12-19 06:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wolfsilveroak.livejournal.com
LOL. The hubby took his glasses off for the movie. I wear contacts.}:P

Date: 2010-12-20 03:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvia-rachel.livejournal.com
I seriously considered that the last time we went to a 3D movie (I think it was Up). But paying $15 to not be able to tell one character from another seems like a rip-off :P

Date: 2010-12-19 05:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vespican.livejournal.com
I'm not so taken with the 3D stuff either. Didn't get a headache watching the one film I've seen in 3D, but felt uncomfortable with an extra pair of glasses.
Dave

Date: 2010-12-19 10:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
I don't get a headache from the 3D, but I certainly don't feel they've done anything significant enough to warrant its use at this point. Especially as much as they're using it. No one seems to have a clue how to use it effectively.

Date: 2010-12-19 07:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] slweippert.livejournal.com
Wha? The is no Green Mist of Evil in "Voyage of the Dawn Treader." I liked the books as a kid and will re-read them occasionally. Hollywood must have thought that the search for Caspian's missing uncles who went exploring and never came back was too boring. Instead, they added an Evil Mist monster. The plot is an adventure story, where they find the fate of each uncle, most are dead btw, explore strange and wonderful islands and one child gets turned into a dragon.

Thanks for the warning. I was thinking about watching this, but have to reconsider watching it. :)
Edited Date: 2010-12-19 07:59 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-12-19 01:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pbray.livejournal.com
IMO, the movie failed because it couldn't decide whether it wanted to be a kids' film. The added elements were likely meant to appeal to an older audience, but they didn't really work. Older kids were likely bored, like me, or perplexed by the illogic ("You're searching for a blue star so why did everyone go to sleep! Why is no one looking at the sky?!!!!!")

Date: 2010-12-19 11:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
I wouldn't say it failed. Not completely. It was still entertaining, but not at the level I would expect or wanted.

Although sleeping at night while looking for the blue star was stupid.

Date: 2010-12-19 04:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvia-rachel.livejournal.com
Yes, I was just about to say the same thing (i.e., WTF?!).

This was always my favourite Narnia book, too, because it's on a ship. So I'm happy to have received this warning that I DO NOT WANT to see the movie.

Date: 2010-12-19 11:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
I really need to go back and reread this series. It's not like the books are mega-tomes or anything. But I do think the reason I liked this one over the others was because it was set on a ship.

Date: 2010-12-20 03:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sylvia-rachel.livejournal.com
Yes, setting a book on a ship makes all sorts of things better ;^)

Another great thing about Dawn Treader is the opening line: "There was a boy named Eustace Clarence Scrubb, and he almost deserved it." Of course there's lots not to like, such as the clunky anti-feminism and the usual dose of heavy-handed allegory, but this is one I still enjoy re-reading even now that some others that I loved as a kid (notably The Horse and His Boy) now make me kind of twitchy. (And then there's The Last Battle, which I read once, put back on the shelf, and never opened again. EndingFAIL.)

Date: 2010-12-20 02:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
Well, I just read that even though Dawn Treader isn't doing spectacular here in the US, it's doing good overseas, so the fourth movie is pretty much guaranteed. I'm not sure we'll get to The Last Battle though, not at the rate these movies are going at the moment. I think they need a better director.

Date: 2010-12-19 11:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
They did have them searching the islands for the uncles, but worked in the green mist as an ultimate goal, I think. Along with the blue star thing. And one child is turned into a dragon, but I thought that might be a spoiler, so didn't mention it in the review.

Date: 2010-12-19 04:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lcohen
yes, i was going to mention that the green mist of evil was an add-on for the movie version--that's not the plot of the book. in the one preview i saw, it seemed like they had made eustace much less of a wanker than he was in the book--i'll need to find out if that's so.

Date: 2010-12-19 11:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
Actually Eustace WAS a fairly believable wanker in the book. *grin* His character was one of the only ones that had a significant character arc that developed as the story progressed. All of the others felt like add-ons or afterthoughts.

Date: 2010-12-19 11:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] crowinator.livejournal.com
I heard that Disney is going to re-release Tron and that's why the DVD is no longer available anywhere. I tried to get it on Netflix and it's gone there, too. Back into the Vault, I guess. Stupid Disney.

Date: 2010-12-20 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
Yes, but why not rerelease it BEFORE the new movie comes out? It doesn't make any sense. I've seen the new movie, so don't care as much any more.

Date: 2010-12-20 05:45 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] teslanomaly
For T3, I'm hoping someone slapped some sense and talent into Michael Bay. Please do not let this be the disaster T2 was.

Never were truer words spoken written! I'm glad to hear the trailer suggests that someone clocked Michael Bay over the head with Devastator's giant cojones. (Seriously, Michael Bay? Seriously?) I really liked most of the first movie, and while there were moments of the second one that were pure brilliance for old-school Transformers fans (hi, Jetfire - I mean, Skyfire - I mean, Jetfire - except when did you get so old and crotchety?) those glimmers were overwhelmed by the bad-ness.

I'm late to the party but I have a Christmas Lights (tm) picture on my camera as of this evening. 'Twill be downloaded and posted tomorrow.
Edited Date: 2010-12-20 05:45 am (UTC)

Date: 2010-12-20 02:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jpsorrow.livejournal.com
The trailer was so good it took me most of it to figure out it was the T3 trailer, not something else. *grin* So there's hope in that department.

And holiday light pics would be cool! I should probably try to get some myself.

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