Some very interesting comments on my post about the reason SF has declined and Fantasy has taken over. I was going to answer all of the comments individually from the previous post, but felt that a general post would be more effective, since many of you said similiar things. I wasn't around back in the heyday of SF, so (as some of you pointed out) I may not have the mood of the times correct. The media and history tends to portray that time as being one of social upheaval, especially the 60s, which is what I was basing my random thought on. However, it seems that even with all of that social upheaval, most of you think that the MOOD of the time was one of hope, and that the belief was that people could make a difference and change the world. You don't get that from most of the historical things you read, say, in high school history classes. Or even from the movies really. So perhaps my supposition is flawed.
I also believe that the marketing tactics that others pointed out has an effect on sales. I've seen marketing in action (and not in action) regarding my own experiences in the publishing industry and seen that it can be a powerful factor in whether or not a book sells well or not. I've read some books that got a huge marketing push . . . and felt they sucked. And I've read books that had NO marketing and thought they were the best things I've read in years. It's unfortunate that marketing plays such a huge roll in the success of novels, because there are some good writers out there that fade away. It would be nice if book success (and everything in the world--job success, etc) depended only on the quality of the writing. And SF doesn't get the marketing push that Fantasy does, in general, from what I've seen. Has anyone heard about Marseguro [Amazon
] by Edward Willett? Or the Tour of the Merrimack series by R.M. Meluch (contisting of the books The Myriad [Amazon
], Wolf Star [Amazon
], and The Sagittarius Command [Amazon
])? I haven't read them myself, but I only found them by scanning the shelf. Wolf Star got a starred review in Publisher's Weekly, so why hadn't I heard about it before? I ended up buying all of them. (If you like SF, check them out!)
I also think it's harder to wow people with technology now because we're so used to having such high tech toys. I've run into this problem because I have an idea for an SF novel, but I don't have that key SF element for it yet. I have the story and the universe, but not that cool idea that will make the story gel for me. If I tried to write it now, it would end up being just "fantasy in space", which is not what I want. And what most of you pointed out is what what most SF really is today.
In any case, you guys all provided some really interesting things to think about regarding SF. Thanks!
And WHILE you providing such interesting comments, I was finishing up Chapter 21 of the Well of Sorrows. It was slightly shorter than most chapters, but not by much. I hope to finish Chapter 22 by the end of this week. But here's the current word count for the Meganovel:
Well of Sorrows
And lastly, there's the Balticon thing I'm going to this weekend. Here's my schedule, reposted for those who missed it last time. For all of those intending to be there, hope to see you at my reading or autographing, or perhaps in the bar!
Friday 7 pm : The Outlaw Panel - Let pirates, highwaymen, and bandits assemble! Why do we like them and turn them into heroes by rewriting their history?
Friday 8 pm : Opening Ceremonies (assuming
pbray and I can get there on time)
Saturday 1 pm : Writing the economics of magic
Saturday 3 pm : Reading
Saturday 6 pm : Autograph table - Hotel Bar Lobby
Saturday 9 pm : How Not to Make the Second Book of Your Trilogy a Letdown for Readers. Create a plot that continues the story.
Sunday 10 am : Playing in Someone Else's Sandbox: What can you expect if you write
stories for a tie-in/shared world created by another writer? Tell us how this
works for an interested writer!
Sunday Noon : Getting Published: Learn about how to handle query letters, fiction and
non fiction book proposals!
ETA: Changed the time for the authographing due to Patricia Bray noticing that they'd changed it on the pocket programming.
I also believe that the marketing tactics that others pointed out has an effect on sales. I've seen marketing in action (and not in action) regarding my own experiences in the publishing industry and seen that it can be a powerful factor in whether or not a book sells well or not. I've read some books that got a huge marketing push . . . and felt they sucked. And I've read books that had NO marketing and thought they were the best things I've read in years. It's unfortunate that marketing plays such a huge roll in the success of novels, because there are some good writers out there that fade away. It would be nice if book success (and everything in the world--job success, etc) depended only on the quality of the writing. And SF doesn't get the marketing push that Fantasy does, in general, from what I've seen. Has anyone heard about Marseguro [Amazon
I also think it's harder to wow people with technology now because we're so used to having such high tech toys. I've run into this problem because I have an idea for an SF novel, but I don't have that key SF element for it yet. I have the story and the universe, but not that cool idea that will make the story gel for me. If I tried to write it now, it would end up being just "fantasy in space", which is not what I want. And what most of you pointed out is what what most SF really is today.
In any case, you guys all provided some really interesting things to think about regarding SF. Thanks!
And WHILE you providing such interesting comments, I was finishing up Chapter 21 of the Well of Sorrows. It was slightly shorter than most chapters, but not by much. I hope to finish Chapter 22 by the end of this week. But here's the current word count for the Meganovel:
| |
166,750 / 100,000 (166.8%) |
Well of Sorrows
And lastly, there's the Balticon thing I'm going to this weekend. Here's my schedule, reposted for those who missed it last time. For all of those intending to be there, hope to see you at my reading or autographing, or perhaps in the bar!
Friday 7 pm : The Outlaw Panel - Let pirates, highwaymen, and bandits assemble! Why do we like them and turn them into heroes by rewriting their history?
Friday 8 pm : Opening Ceremonies (assuming
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Saturday 1 pm : Writing the economics of magic
Saturday 3 pm : Reading
Saturday 6 pm : Autograph table - Hotel Bar Lobby
Saturday 9 pm : How Not to Make the Second Book of Your Trilogy a Letdown for Readers. Create a plot that continues the story.
Sunday 10 am : Playing in Someone Else's Sandbox: What can you expect if you write
stories for a tie-in/shared world created by another writer? Tell us how this
works for an interested writer!
Sunday Noon : Getting Published: Learn about how to handle query letters, fiction and
non fiction book proposals!
ETA: Changed the time for the authographing due to Patricia Bray noticing that they'd changed it on the pocket programming.