Hey, an author introduction! I haven't done one of these in forever. I need to start this back up on a regular basis. Maybe now that the semester is coming to an end I'll have some extra time. (I'll just ignore that looming deadline for the sequel to WELL OF SORROWS. *grin*)
In any case, here's the first author introduction for a while. Ari Marmell (
mouseferatu) wrote a post about mixing fantasy with horror as a way of introducing us to his book
The Conquerer's Shadow, out from Spectra right now in hardcover. Check out the post and comment! And then check out the book!

In Ari Marmell's words:
Fantasy, if you’ll pardon the somewhat questionable metaphor, is like cocaine or heroine. I’m not talking about it being addictive, though it is that. (The first hit was free, and in the decades since, I’ve been paying huge amounts for my regular fix.) I’m referring to the fact that it’s more valuable if you cut it with something else.
This may be an odd thing to say, coming from a guy who recently wrote a column expressing his dislike for mixing hard sci-fi and fantasy. That combination, while it can occasionally be done well, just isn’t normally to my taste. But that doesn’t mean that fantasy can’t benefit from other genres. In fact, the more fantasy I write (or just read), the more I’m coming to believe something that I’m sure at least some of you will find a little objectionable.
Specifically, fantasy is almost never complete--almost never “pure,” if you will--without at least a little bit of horror.
The two genres are really a lot more intertwined than some people ever realize. I mean, really, look at the staples of so much classic fantasy. Dragons, trolls, werewolves, evil fey. . . . Ghosties, ghoulies, and long-legetty beasties. Man-eating giants, hordes of orcs, vampires in dark towers. Necromancers and evil wizards and sorceresses.
Picture a vile spirit, a shade of ancient times, a corrupt ruler who sold his soul for power. He now roams the earth, hunting on behalf of his hellish master, sometimes alone, sometimes with his minions who are themselves only slightly lesser wraiths. Alternatively, picture a traveling carnival, run with an iron hand by an evil witch. This carnival survives by misleading and deceiving its patrons, and occasionally imprisons people to make them part of its exhibits.
These sound like they could at least be potentially come out of a horror novel or movie, right? The first is the Witch-king of Angmar, Lord of the Nazgûl from Lord of the Rings. The second is Mommy Fortuna’s carnival from The Last Unicorn. (Okay, technically I cheated--Mommy Fortuna didn’t imprison people--but I’d argue that imprisoning fully intelligent and self-aware beings like the unicorn and the harpy counts as the same thing.)
This is a combination that was especially well understood by the early pulp writers; pick any Conan or Solomon Kane tale at random, and odds are good it’s got some pretty horrific elements to it. In fact, I would go so far as to say that the line of demarcation between fantasy and horror isn’t defined by content, but purely by focus. The exact same setup--characters, setting, plot--can sometimes be written as a horror if it focuses on the supernatural evils and their influence, playing it out via scenes of suspense and discomfort; and other times written as fantasy, by focusing on the efforts of the heroes to overcome the evil, which is presented much more matter-of-factly.
Note that I’m not saying horror can’t focus on the latter, or fantasy on the former; I’m just throwing out one example of how they often differ. (Actually, now I’m thinking that I’d love to see the first half of The Fellowship of the Ring reimagined as a horror, focused primarily on a group of hobbits trying to make this journey while being stalked by the ringwraiths . . .)
This intertwining of the two genres isn’t coincidental. I’d argue that fantasy is, in fact, an offshoot of horror. Look at the oldest inspirations for fantasy: myth, fairy tales, and the like. These were all attempts at explaining the world around us, specifically the parts that frightened us--or, in the case of some fairy tales, of imposing certain moral behaviors by making us fear the consequences of other behaviors.
And what is fantasy, then, but an alteration or addition to that baseline, in which we suddenly produce heroes capable of protecting us from those fearsome powers?
Obviously, I’m speaking to extremes. It’s patently obvious that people can write fantasy without including horror. And it’s equally obvious that there’s a huge gray area between “no horror at all” and “H.P. Lovecraft’s Narnia.” (Which I also want to see, now.) Even fairly light fantasy can include a few darker/more horrific scenes; there are a couple, for instance, in the Belgariad, which is otherwise as pretty non-horrific as fantasy comes. But as you may have picked up from what I’ve said so far, I tend to prefer fantasy that goes darker. I’m not saying it must be very horrific, just that I believe fantasy is stronger, and cleaves nearer to its source inspirations and archetypes, if it allows itself to get dark/frightening/bloody when necessary. That “when necessary” is key, of course. If it’s purely gratuitous, it’s not helping the story.
(If one includes gore in one’s definition of horror--and gore is certainly an effective tool of horror, if used properly--then one could potentially argue that any fantasy that includes sword-fights or people being eaten by monsters is being dishonest with itself by not including at least a tiny touch of horror. But that’s a different discussion, I think.)
Which brings me to my second Great Belief. (I really ought to start a religion based on this.) And that is, even the darkest/most horrific fantasy can--indeed, must--include substantial amounts of humor.
The last thing I want is for my entertainment to be undiluted bleakness. I don’t find that--well, entertaining. But more specific to my point, I don’t feel that humor interferes with horror. In fact, when done right, it improves it; the humor offers a relief of tension, or the horror is accentuated coming on the heels of the humor. (In his darker moments, Steven Brust makes great use of this combination. And though his horror is usually more of the gory/squicky variety than the creepy/suspenseful variety, the humor/horror combination seems to be a favorite of Simon Green’s as well.)
Thing is, in addition to “unrelenting dolefulness” not being a fun read, it’s also simply not realistic. Very few people are completely humorless, and yes, people often joke to make themselves feel better, or break tension. If fantasy is drifting further from its roots and archetypes by avoiding horror, the characters in both horror and fantasy drift further from being real people by avoiding at least some amount of humor. But I guess this is less about “characters in horror” or “characters in fantasy” than it is just “characters in general.”
I am, of course, speaking of humor in the dialog, and in the occasional funny situation. I’m not advocating for the addition of slapstick, or the use of Douglas Adams/Terry Brooks-style humor in a book that otherwise resembles Clive Barker or Glen Cook.
Now, while these two traits aren’t necessarily tightly linked, I’ve discovered that I have a tendency to combine them in my own writing. In most of my books to date, the funniest characters tend to also be among the darkest. Maybe it’s because I feel I can be more bitterly/offensively sarcastic when speaking through the mouths of the less sympathetic? I don’t know. I don’t think it was deliberate on my part, and there are certainly exceptions; but it’s definitely a trait that arises more often than it doesn’t.
Still, that’s not required. All I want of my fantasy--again, written or read--is that it allow itself to get as dark as the story and the mood require, while also remaining humorous enough to make me laugh, all without sacrificing either the character development or the unveiling of an interesting plot.
Is that a lot to ask? I dunno, maybe. But this is fantasy, after all; it’s not that unreasonable to expect the impossible.
(My most sincere gratitude to Joshua Palmatier for the opportunity to speak with you folks. If you’re interested in learning more about
The Conqueror’s Shadow--my recent novel, which inspired many of these thoughts, and which I hope lives up to the fairly strenuous demands I just made of others--you can do so
here.)